Autore Topic: La scrittura di Teen Wolf  (Letto 38502 volte)

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qui il topic delle lamentele, di là eravamo leggermente OT.

qui troverete conforto e totale accordo sulla schifezza che era la stagione 4.. tutti avremmo bisogno di candeggiare la nostra memoria sulla roba che è stata.
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@Lunsfuhd: "The men of Teen Wolf are like Pokemon, gotta catch em all." :huhu:
“I spent like 10 years of my life pretending to fly around on a broomstick and you’re asking me if preparing for a love scene was ‘tricky’ because the other person also had a penis?” - Daniel Radcliffe
“Everyone dies alone. But if you mean something to someone…
if you help someone or love someone, and even a single person
remembers you… then maybe you never really die at all?” - PoI addicted

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questo topic me l'ero perso altrimenti sarei il primo nei commenti  :lol?: :lol?: :lol?:

Post unito: 29 May 2015, 16:50:56
Obbiettivamente tolta quella di Derek, le due uscite peggiore per il telefilm sono stare Jackson e Cora. Jackson aveva un'ottima costruzione (figlio di Peter-rivalità con Scott-amore con Lidya). Cora era un'ottima sostituzione sia per Erica che per Jackson. A livello personale la peggiore perdita è stata quella di Isaac. Adoro l'attore che interpreta Derek, ma se proprio dobbiamo perdere lui, perché rinunciare anche al personaggio. Avevano trovato un baby Derek perfetto. Invece di ringiovanirlo a inizio stagione fatelo nel finale. In coppia con la cacciatrice di taglie era perfetto, ma se lo dovevamo perdere che l'hanno fatti mettere insieme a fare. Devo smettere di leggere perché mi faccio il sangue amaro.

Dragon Age non so cosa sia. Ma se ci sono draghi o streghe mi interessa. vado a cercarlo.
jackson l'hanno segato nel momento di massimo splendore  :XD: :doh: :wall:

da bastardone egoista a pluriomicida involontario dal passato diciamo disturbato

poteva essere un personaggione sulla terza serie e invece ciao  :sooRy:

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Colton ha spiegato recentemente che se n'è andato perchè non voleva più restare nello show e non aveva belle parole da spendere sui produttori esecutivi :ninja2:

ma tanto se non se ne andava avevano intenzione di farlo fuori nella terza stagione.. ha fatto bene ad andarsene :XD: in Arrow ha avuto più successo e guarda caso se n'è andato anche da lì quando lo show stava traballando :asd: ed ora è al cinema.

quando Crystal ha detto a Jeff che se ne voleva andare.. lui tutto tranquillo, va bene troveremmo un modo di farti uscire con stile.. e l'ha uccisa :interello: mentre Daniel anche lui voleva andarsene ma l'hanno fatto andare a Paris.
Danny che improvvisamente si scopre che sapeva tutto di tutti, sparito anche lui nel nulla.
vediamo a chi tocca prossimamente sparire senza traccia e nominations -.-'
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@Lunsfuhd: "The men of Teen Wolf are like Pokemon, gotta catch em all." :huhu:
“I spent like 10 years of my life pretending to fly around on a broomstick and you’re asking me if preparing for a love scene was ‘tricky’ because the other person also had a penis?” - Daniel Radcliffe
“Everyone dies alone. But if you mean something to someone…
if you help someone or love someone, and even a single person
remembers you… then maybe you never really die at all?” - PoI addicted

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vediamo a chi tocca prossimamente sparire senza traccia e nominations -.-'

Oh, ma lo sappiamo chi sarà il prossimo.
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Esatto.
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Oh, ma lo sappiamo chi sarà il prossimo.
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dicono che
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@Lunsfuhd: "The men of Teen Wolf are like Pokemon, gotta catch em all." :huhu:
“I spent like 10 years of my life pretending to fly around on a broomstick and you’re asking me if preparing for a love scene was ‘tricky’ because the other person also had a penis?” - Daniel Radcliffe
“Everyone dies alone. But if you mean something to someone…
if you help someone or love someone, and even a single person
remembers you… then maybe you never really die at all?” - PoI addicted

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dicono che
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e poi quella non è una cacciatrice :zizi: è una mercenaria.. il che IMHO è peggio.

Ah, ecco, la quarta stagione mi è proprio rimasta impressa...  :huhu:
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Ah, ecco, la quarta stagione mi è proprio rimasta impressa...  :huhu:

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@Lunsfuhd: "The men of Teen Wolf are like Pokemon, gotta catch em all." :huhu:
“I spent like 10 years of my life pretending to fly around on a broomstick and you’re asking me if preparing for a love scene was ‘tricky’ because the other person also had a penis?” - Daniel Radcliffe
“Everyone dies alone. But if you mean something to someone…
if you help someone or love someone, and even a single person
remembers you… then maybe you never really die at all?” - PoI addicted

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Ma certo che l'ha pagata, in natura. E a rate. :zizi:
Derek non si fa debiti di soldi.
"E' già una felicità poter amare, anche quando ad amare si è soli."
"Ci sono persone molti simili ai pesce gatto, ti danno una botta di vita.
Stimolano l’immaginazione, ti fanno pensare, sono aria fresca.
Ringrazio Dio per i pesce gatto, perché altrimenti saremmo strambi, noiosi e monotoni se non avessimo qualcuno che ci stimola"

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domanda: I've seen you and some others call Stalia transference 101 but I'm not entirely sure what that means. So I was wondering if you could explain?

risposta: I had tihs really good answer for this but then a fly landed on my touchscreen and tumblr ate it, I am shaking my fist at this fly right now

okay - transference is, to quote wiki,  “the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person’s childhood.”[1] Another definition is “the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object.”[2] Still another definition is “a reproduction of emotions relating to repressed experiences, especially of childhood, and the substitution of another person … for the original object of the repressed impulses.”

Now one of the most important things to remember is that it is mutual.

It is the mistaken idea that the closeness necessary for any kind of work, especially with mental health but not restricted to, will cause an intimacy with the patient/doctor than can then be mistaken for a different relationship than they have. This fixation, often from patient to doctor, creates a kind of worship that is then heady to the doctor and gets all muddled up and almost always ends up in destroying them both.

Believe it or not Hannibal is one of the best ways to explain this. There are three basic instances of it in Hannibal, Hannibal’s relationship with Will which is as much a giant homo-erotic transference as it is a game of cat and mouse [and yes transference happens in those kinds of situations, look at The Third Man for example] Hannibal’s relationship with his own therapist [I want to call her Lobelia, but definitely Gillian Anderson] and one of his patients.

Now the patient, I think his name was Fred, took the focus of Hannibal trying to work on his problems as a sign of friendship and Hannibal was quick to point out he wasn’t his friend, he was his therapist and that as a good therapist [he really was when he wasn’t hypnotising people into murdering folk] he believed that Fred needed to see a new therapist and was happy to recommend some. [He was then murdered by his actual friend with the idea that the friend, who liked ot make people into musical instruments, would befriend Hannibal]

With Stalia it’s actually very textbook in it’s execution.

Stiles, suffering from guilt, fixates on Malia trying to “fix” her and bring her social skills up to standard, we know he’s been doing this since at least the end of 3b because he mentions her improvement in 401. This means he spends a lot of time with her working over little things, with praise and correction, and when he’s with her she is his primary focus. She then mistakes this attention for affection and kisses him in Mexico, evidence suggests this is the first kiss. She then woos him [breaking into his room, walking next to him etc] until the affection is reciprocated at which point it gets messy.

A person’s intense focus is heady, and its not unique to doctor/patients either, but Malia is a mess of hormones [she’s seventeen, they’re all a mess of hormones, except Lydia, she’s probably on birth control which manages them] and she has this boy who is spending all of his time on her, who is praising her and probably using little treats [candies probably, I’m guessing] to encourage her learning. It works just as well with kids as animals tragically. This laser focus means she mistakes his interest for affection and she changes the game by introducing sex.Her fixation on him becomes as heady as his fixation on her and so we see them form cycles of destroying each other because neither is what is healthy for the other because it’s a relationship based on the care given to make her better.

It’s uneven from the start.

If we take Stiles from the equation and replace him with Morell, who IS Malia’s counsellor and is responsible for her re-integration, we’d be shrieking abuse from the heavens because it is - and it inevitably destroys both, because it’s not what it appears to be. The intimacy is real, but it’s not romantic, or sexual in nature.

It’s why students crush on their teachers, their burden of care (as it’s technically called) becoming mistaken due to the intimacy of the relationship [no one ever crushes on asshole teachers] to romantic interest.

This is a perfectly normal phenomenon so common that it’s among the first thing anyone with a burden of care is taught about, your students will crush on you, ignore them. Patients will fixate on you - get them a new therapist, because it can be very unhealthy and get in the way of the healing process.

So we take it further, to a Malia who is socially aware, who doesn’t need Stiles any more, so she dumps him because all of a sudden the things she found so endearing are patronising and clingy and he has no more idea of how to function in a relationship based on mutuality than she does, so she continues with guys who tell her what to do, who resemble him, and he flails about with no idea what is going on.

F Scott Fitzgerard wrote a book about it called Tender is the Night.

It’s normal and expected and incredibly unhealthy to both, and it’s really easy to take advantage of. We’ve all heard about the teacher [who might be fictional, he’s always the teacher of a friend of a friend’s cousin] who slept with loads of his students. That same, god look at that loser, applies.

If Morell, as Malia’s counsellor/therapist/french teacher, was the subject we’d be screaming abuse, because it kinda is, he, because he doesn’t have the knowledge to shut it down, is abusing the burden of care placed upon him when he decided to “fix” her, but he doesn’t know better.

That’s the thing about transference - it’s unhealthy to both. And it always, always, always, ends in tears.


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“Everyone dies alone. But if you mean something to someone…
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remembers you… then maybe you never really die at all?” - PoI addicted

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tra una settimana inizia la quinta...io sinceramente non ho il coraggio di guardarla  :nu:

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