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Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« il: 23 August 2012, 01:57:17 »
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"It's the first season of Lost on DVD.
 That's the meaning of Christmas?
No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff."

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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #1 il: 23 August 2012, 09:44:24 »
ci sono tante cose molto interessanti da leggere, purtroppo molte sono parecchio lunghe e non so quanto abbia senso riportarle, però ci sono anche cose tipo questa:

Why did we never get to see a Troy and Abed in the Morning web series?
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[]danharmon[] 1138 punti 7 ore fa
because network TV doesn't know the internet exists yet.

:interello: :interello:

Post unito: 23 August 2012, 09:39:55
Hey Dan, big fan of yours from the UK, thank you for Community. I have 2 questions today:
The rumour mill says that Chevy Chase walked off set at the end of filming for Season 3 because he refused to do something. What did he refuse to do?
In Season 2, Pierce turned into a villain of sorts. Was this a reflection of how you and the other writers felt about Chevy Chase or a coincidence?
Thank you for doing this AMA, i can't wait to see what you do in the future!
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[]danharmon[] 1614 punti 10 ore fa
He refused to do the "tag" for the Digital Estate Planning episode (the 8 bit video game episode). In the scripted tag, Abed comes to Pierce with the thumb drive he took, and says "Pierce, I've been able to adjust some of the code for your Dad's video game and I've made a version I think you might like better." He puts the thumb drive into a laptop in front of Pierce. We cut to the laptop screen, where we see Pierce's avatar on a front lawn with the giant floating head of Cornelius. Every time Pierce presses the space bar, his avatar throws a baseball to his father's head, which gives him a thousand points and a "great job, son!" Pierce presses the space bar a few times, pauses, then leans over and embraces Abed and we fade to black. When Adam Countee pitched that tag, tears instantly rolled down my cheeks, and in point of fact, my eyes are getting watery describing it to you. It was the most important part of the episode and possibly one of the most important moments of the season. I was very upset to hear that it wasn't shot because someone didn't feel like shooting it, especially since it was literally the last day of shooting, which meant we'd never be able to pick it up. I regret nothing about how upset I got. My job was to care about my show.
It wasn't a reflection of how we felt about Chevy, it was a reflection of how we felt Chevy would be best used. I adapted all the characters to the actors as we went on - Annie was nothing more than a Tracy Flick ripoff on paper, but by episode 6 of season one, Alison Brie and the writers had evolved the character, using Alison's flavors. I don't see Clark Griswold when I look at Chevy, and I certainly don't hear Fletch when I'm listening to someone tell me how much like Fletch they are. As I've said, I think his best performance was in the Dungeons and Dragons episode. I think what makes Pierce - and Chevy - heroic - is their unwillingness to surrender. There's a voice inside of us screaming I DON'T WANT TO DIE, I DON'T WANT TO BE IGNORED, I DON'T WANT TO FADE AWAY, IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR. Pierce, in his best moments, channels that voice, for the sake of all of us, so that we don't have to say these petty things. Much like Eric Cartman or Archie Bunker. It was a failed experiment that we back off of at a certain point because it felt like fans were wondering why anyone would ever hang out with such a monster.

Post unito: 23 August 2012, 09:44:24
Why did he refuse to do it?
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[]danharmon[] 1503 punti 10 ore fa
The answer I heard from the people on set was that he didn't think it was funny. After he realized how upset I was about it, he said things in voicemails like "there was no script" (untrue) and "I have a weird relationship with the name Cornelius" (dumb, he had no dialogue in the tag). The real answer, I believe, is that he wanted to go home because he was tired. He probably didn't realize he was permanently damaging the episode by doing so because he often walked off set and then we would just pick up his shots later in the week. But this was the final shot of the season. The sets came down after he walked away. So this was the one time in three years that his personality caused unfixable damage to something I really held valuable.




BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Per chi aveva ancora dubbi sul fatto che Chevy è uno stronzo, nonché decisamente unprofessional.

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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #2 il: 23 August 2012, 15:03:53 »
veramente pieno di risposte interessanti. ha detto che il suo episodio preferito è quello di dungeon and dragon (è anche il mio  :love:) e consiglia di guardare la serie "girls" della HBO in più di una risposta. me la procuro subito
"It's the first season of Lost on DVD.
 That's the meaning of Christmas?
No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff."

"I don't know about you, but i know i ended up here because things weren't that great out there. You should try accepting where you're at, man."
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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #3 il: 23 August 2012, 15:05:09 »
yep, l'ho letto quasi tutto anche io... quando ho tempo finisco.

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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #4 il: 24 August 2012, 16:31:46 »
[–]mrpappy 60 punti 1 giorno fa

Honestly, how do you feel about getting fired by NBC? Do you feel it was a fair choice, and you really had gone too far? Do you wish you had been less public about your grievances towards them prior to your firing? In the future, will you direct people different or continue to care about the product of your combined work more than their feelings at that moment? And do you feel upset that they took your child away from you and left it for the other writers of the show, or are you satisfied that they'll do a good job at it?

I get the impression that a lot of people think Community is dead now you are not a part of it. Do you agree with this, or would you like them to change their attitude?

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[]danharmon[] 273 punti 1 giorno fa

I feel like NBC is in a state of chaos that may or may not be ended by this latest regime, but in any case, at the moment of my firing, lacked the concern, coordination, foresight and muscle to make Sony understand what a needlessly risky move they were making.

I think Sony took the risk because they didn't see it as a risk. What's at risk when your show's been moved to purgatory, etc. I feel like taking me off Community was as obviously foolish as you see most people saying.

I think the rumors you hear about me being bad at my job, especially the empty, overblown stuff about Chevy, are the best possible attempt anyone can make at making a very confusing, very dumb thing seem less confusing and less dumb.

I also feel relieved and excited and proud and smug. I feel like I win and they lose. My writers and I bled for that show and we would have kept doing it, in spite of Sony's attitude, for one reason: the fans. If it weren't for the fans, we all would have quit after season two. That show stopped being about our fulfillment the day Sony told us the Dungeons and Dragons episode was their least favorite. It stopped being about the writers' fulfillment the day Greenblatt told me he had seen "about half" the episodes but wanted to know how we could stop making it "too weird to follow The Office." There was a point where the only thing getting the writers out of bed was the joy of the viewer, which was plenty, even though Sony was doing everything in their power to make us miserable. So you can see how a company taking it upon themselves to martyr me the way they did was a pretty clean way out of a pretty tough spot for me. At the end of this thing, I'm rich, people want to work with me, audiences respect me, I don't have to work for Sony anymore and I can even feel sorry for myself if I feel like it. It's a pretty sweet ending to a crazy story.

That's how I honestly feel. Answering honestly does me no favors, but I want to take the "anything" part of "ask me anything" seriously, because Reddit made Community. And that's the part of this whole thing that bums me out, is that the only people that stand to suffer are the only people that never made a dime. The people that put free labor into Community. The people that got tattoos of it, the people that made halloween costumes and birthday cakes and tee shirts and music videos about it. They're the only people not walking away with millions of dollars and they're the only people that EVER MATTERED and ever understood the show.

So I feel good bad. I feel terrible awesome. I feel proud ashamed. I feel engorged on my own starvation, I feel like the biggest con artist and sucker in the history of monsters and heroes.





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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #5 il: 24 August 2012, 16:53:23 »
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My writers and I bled for that show and we would have kept doing it, in spite of Sony's attitude, for one reason: the fans. If it weren't for the fans, we all would have quit after season two. That show stopped being about our fulfillment the day Sony told us the Dungeons and Dragons episode was their least favorite. It stopped being about the writers' fulfillment the day Greenblatt told me he had seen "about half" the episodes but wanted to know how we could stop making it "too weird to follow The Office." There was a point where the only thing getting the writers out of bed was the joy of the viewer, which was plenty, even though Sony was doing everything in their power to make us miserable.


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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #6 il: 24 August 2012, 17:40:27 »
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That show stopped being about our fulfillment the day Sony told us the Dungeons and Dragons episode was their least favorite.

 :nu: :nu:  my god...

fantastica la risposta quotata da kick.  :prego: :prego: Dan

"It's the first season of Lost on DVD.
 That's the meaning of Christmas?
No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff."

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Re: Dan Harmon AMA su reddit!!! :O
« Risposta #7 il: 24 August 2012, 18:18:21 »
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I washed dishes in a rehab center for three years and I didn't walk away from that story with jack shit. Except maybe an idea for a FOX pilot.
"a" FOX pilot o "the" FOX pilot di cui si parla in questi giorni?